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¤ NBC 11 News Special Report: Deadly Contrails in the Sky ?

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Updated: 10:54 PM Nov 21, 2011

11 News Special Report: Deadly Contrails in the Sky?
A controversial theory is gaining popularity– a theory that has some saying jet plane contrails are the government using the sky as their own personal chemistry experiment; an experiment that some fear is dangerous.

Posted: 8:14 PM Nov 21, 2011
Reporter: Matt Vanderveer 
Email Address:Matt.Vanderveer@nbc11news.com

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (KKCO) – The trails left behind by airplanes can be explained by simple chemistry– air and moisture mixing in the atmosphere make white trails in the sky.

They’re called contrails but some believe those trails are more than a mixture of moisture.

A controversial theory is gaining popularity– a theory that has some saying those contrails are the government using the sky as their own personal chemistry experiment; an experiment that some fear is dangerous.

The technical term is Geo-engineering.

« The plans to put chemicals into the atmosphere will pollute our air, our water and our soil. »

President of the Agriculture Defense Coalition Rosalind Peterson says chemicals are being sprayed into the air via jet planes, all in an attempt to combat global warming.

« They’re changing our climate and they’re reducing the amount of sunlight that’s reaching the earth,” says Peterson.

Grand Junction resident Derrick Snider has photographed hundreds of local contrails over the past year.

« You’ll see a lot of checkerboard patterns in the sky or a lot of cross patterns or X patterns,” says Snider.

Snider says these trails in the sky are part of a government experiment.

« They’re using aerosol spraying techniques to bounce sun rays back into the atmosphere,” says Snider.

He says high levels of aluminum and other toxic chemicals can be measured in the atmosphere.

« Chemicals like aluminum oxides, barium, beryllium and sulfur,” says Snider.

Government atmospheric testing shows these chemicals are in the air but there is no proof higher levels over time are because of chemical trails.

Contrails are exhaust coming from these jet planes, mostly water but what some conspiracy theorists believe is that those trails are actually chemical trails, or chemtrails purposefully filled with deadly toxins.

Retired FBI agent Ted Gunderson says these chemicals are slowly killing the planet.

« Birds are dying around the world. Fish are dying by the hundreds of thousands. This is genocide. This is poison. This is murder,” says Gunderson.

Not all buy the hype.

« It’s very difficult to tell if it’s anything other than normal plane exhaust,” says James Ayers, a Professor of Atmospheric Chemistry at Colorado Mesa University.

He says it’s unlikely the government is experimenting with human lives.

« People have talked about the idea of putting particles into the atmosphere to try and observe cooling kind of like volcanoes do, but it wouldn’t be very practical; the amounts you’d have to put in and the potentially toxic side effects would be extreme,” says Ayers.

He says lingering contrails have to do with one element.

« It has to do with the atmospheric conditions; so if you look in the air and it’s particularly cold or moist, a contrail may persist for a long time,” says Ayers.

Peterson says these persistent contrails rarely existed before 1980 and they’ve only gotten worse.

« Definite impacts on our health, our crop production and our trees,” adds Peterson.

Snider insists the plumes are more than just exhaust and wants the government to recognize that publicly.

« We need to have some type of meaningful discourse from our government about this phenomenon,” explains Snider.

Peterson says because of geo-engineering, less direct sunlight makes its way into the atmosphere causing massive deficiencies of Vitamin D among humans.

She says rickets and other childhood diseases are on the rise as a result of the lack of Vitamin D.

All government agencies deny the existence of chemical trails.

Read Comments
  • by Jesse Venture Location: Heaven on Hell on Nov 24, 2011 at 09:05 PM
    Chemtrails are real and they kill people too. If not stopped, there will be WAR – People vs. Govt.
  • by betty Location: CA on Nov 24, 2011 at 02:53 PM
    My house, it was discovered, was « invaded » with barium chaff back in May of 2010. This was confirmed by window swipe and soils tests done at Analytical Labs of Petaluma, CA, after I was hospitalized for acute barium poisoning (three blood tests by labs such as Quest Labs) in June of 2010. These findings are NOT « hoaxes, » NO ONE has anything to gain by such, and I am considering posting my tests results for anyone with eyes to see on the Agriculture Defense Coalition.com website, hosted by a former U.S.D.A. crop loss adjuster in Ukiah, CA. I have had to have my house wiped down and HEPA-filtered with a large industrial machine, twice. I still cannot live in it. There is a continuum of sensitivity to this toxin. Most people are not as sensitive to the toxin-laced chaff as I am (there are also chaffs laced with, among other things, dessicated human red blood cells, virulent fungi, bacteria and viruses, found by the Carnicom Institute); they just know that they’re sneezing and coughing more than usual, that « something’s » causing them to be asthmatic when they formerly weren’t, but most aren’t asking WHY, if they notice anything’s wrong at all.
  • by Ted Location: MT on Nov 24, 2011 at 02:42 PM
    Wow, lotta dead people typing in on this, they just don’t know it yet. Perhaps they are going to get what they deserve, just too bad they are going to drag the rest of us down along with them because of their apathy. The US populace is becoming UN-done — enjoy!
  • by stomp Location: Alamosa on Nov 23, 2011 at 05:27 PM
    What’s up with the audio in the video? Let me guess, government got to it. They’ll do anything to keep this under wraps, including using taxpayer dollars to have online gangs of thugs patrolling forums and comment sections to pounce on anyone who dares to mention the word chemtrails. Funny thing is, The US Air Force invented the word in 1990. Check out http://www.worldcat.org/title/chemtrails-chemistry-131-manual-fall-1990/oclc/30485452
  • by stomp Location: Alamosa on Nov 23, 2011 at 05:10 PM
    Chemtrails are real. They are mostly silver iodide though. The short trails that dissipate are CO2. They use dry ice (CO2) to supercoold the atmosphere, then lay down silver iodide (Agl), which is made by combining silver nitrate and potassium iodide. Don’t take my work for it, look it up. It was started in the 40′s by Kurt Vonnegut’s brother, and Irvin Langmuir and General Electric.
  • by GW Location: Montrose on Nov 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM
    As a Vietnam vet… remember agent orange?… listen, we have been under attack since gaining liberty. As a retired health care professional… Have you noticed an increase in reported disease recently?… but what do I know?… trust God because we are a nation without borders and, in this case… a defenseless sky… PS…barium, aluminum particulates et al, are bad for your well being… and I do not smoke pot or drink booze. Peace and look up… beyond the « smog »…
  • by Andrew Location: Connecticut on Nov 23, 2011 at 10:58 AM
    It is called “geoengineering”; legislation is currently in place that allows our government to experiment with weather modification, which is what the metal particles sprayed from the planes do, the metal particles serve as reflectors, which will cool the earth reducing global warming. The theory is fully documented in current scientific literature.
  • by Dick Location: Grand Junction on Nov 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM
    It is not responsible reporting to talk about some theory when there is a scientific basis for the existence of contrails. Before reporting on the concerns of some people about the contrails, the reporter should check on the science. If there is a story there, then report it. If not, do not report it. This is an example of poor journalism, striving for starting news when in fact there is no news. There are NO FACTS to substantiate the concern of some ignorant (not stupid) folks about the nature of contrails. There do seem to be a lot folks out there who will believe any conspiracy theory that is offered. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. KKCO, please give us news, not unsubstantiated wacko stories.
  • by anon on Nov 23, 2011 at 12:30 AM
    look up the global warming hack of norway and hippies are violent people look it up. It’s all there whatever you want to find.
  • by Anonymous on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM
    k, first of all, « back in the 70s and 80s » you werent seeing the entire sky filled with criss-crossing patterns that turned into an entire sky full of man-made cloud cover.. I have photographed up to 12 planes flying over the Grand Valley at the same time, turning a beautiful bright blue Colorado sky (with not one cloud visible) into the ugliest grey and black you can imagine… These planes flew over the valley for over 8 hours that day… To call these « normal contrails of water vapor » is absurd!!
  • by Rory Location: grand junction on Nov 22, 2011 at 03:02 PM
    do some research on the HAARP machine very interesting and plausible, in fact i believe its been tested in Alaska
  • by Diane Location: Grand Junction on Nov 22, 2011 at 02:07 PM
    « unlikely the government is experimenting with human lives. » Why would a government that has experimented on its citizens for many years change its habits?!? Don’t forget the atrocities the gov’t afflicted on the isolated natives in Alaska, let alone the experiments in the 40′s and 50′s on the troops. Sure ignore history, that is the best plan!
  • by Anon on Nov 22, 2011 at 02:03 PM
    HAHA This is so mid 90′s. Can we leave it there please? This makes me laugh so hard remembering all conspiracy theorists freaking out back then every time they saw a jet trail. Freaking idiots the government has better things to do than test chems on people. GJ would make a bad test group anyways with all the addicts and pill poppers around here anyways.
  • by Anonymous on Nov 22, 2011 at 02:03 PM
    An the moon landings were all faked too!
  • by Mike Location: Wellington, New Zealand on Nov 22, 2011 at 01:44 PM
    I’ve been a « jet mechanic » for 36 years. As a kid in the 1960′s * early 1970′s I used to watch long contrails overhead Christchurch, NZ, when B737′s were introduced here. Then in the mid 1970′s I worked on those self same a/c. Contrails were first reported in WW1, and again in the Spanish civil War. Contrails lingering and spreading out into cloud were reported by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry writing in « Flight to Arras » about his experiences flying reconnaisance missions against the Germans in 1940. The book is still available. Sheets of contrails from massed B-17 bombers over Germany in 1943 and 1944 are common in photos of the era – although some chemtrail believers say those are faked! And so on…..
  • by SteveH Location: Fruita on Nov 22, 2011 at 01:38 PM
    Please refrain from using the word « theory » to label untestable beliefs.
  • by Jeff Location: Under the sky on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:56 PM
    I’m glad to see the majority of people commenting find reports like this to be ridiculous. The minority who believe this junk, are sheep, who believe anything that is printed. To them I say, use the internet to find facts, not just what the left tells you to think. Contrails have been around since airplanes have been able to reach high altitude. Watch a WWII film sometime.
  • by Anonymous on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:26 PM
    kkco—– wont print my capt kirk remark? It wasnt nasty, some people on here really needs to get a sense of humor and a life! Matt your doing alright,dont let these morons get to you. If they are so dam smart how come they dont do the reporting?
  • by Alternative AM Radio Location: Grand Junction (parts) on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM
    Alternative Grassroots Radio > Freedom 1610 AM We are a Low-Power AM Radio station reaching out to “parts” of Grand Junction, Colorado. It is our goal to provide you with news from alternative sources. The mainstream media, both the LEFT and RIGHT, are controlled and work hand-in-hand with BIG GOVERNMENT. It is our desire to improve transmissions and reach out as far as we can within the FCC Part 15 regulations. OH, and you might hear some chemtrail talk.
  • by Anti-lemming Location: Western Slope on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM
    Folks, if you think it’s all a bunch of crapola then get in line with the others heading towards the cliff. Do your own research. Plenty of info out there. https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=chemtrails documentary
  • by JoJo Location: GJT on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:12 PM
    I don’t think the news story is stupid, I think that anyone that thinks these contrails are anything onther that just that are stupid.
  • by Resident Location: Grand Junction on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:37 AM
    Google US Governement, Operation Cloverleaf
  • by Deb Location: Gateway on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:06 AM
    I have been watching this for 12 years. I have study this and read both sides. I believe it is real and needs to be stopped. I am not a wacko..in fact a true conservative who believes that we as Americans need to be open to the fact that both sides of the government are corrupt and only looking out for they pensions and perks.
  • by what? on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:57 AM
    OMG!!! Matt where in the world did you get your information.
  • by Me Location: Fruita on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:47 AM
    To the jet mechanic…being a jet mechanic qualifies you to speak on the atmosphere? As far as contrails being rare before 1980…that’s just stupid speculation…I remember seeing contrails way back in the 70′s when I was a kid. The fact is, they are more prevalent now because there is much more air traffic now. Has anybody seen the video on youtube of a ladies sprinkler making a rainbow effect due to sunlight shining through the water particles…and she goes on ranting about the government tainting the water…because, « you NEVER seen rainbows like that before. » What a bunch of Kooks! Just think 11 news did a special report on this. I can’t wait to see the report on the moon being made out of cheese.
  • by Butch Location: Paradox on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:32 AM
    An all time low for 11 News. Pathetic!
  • by N on Nov 22, 2011 at 08:40 AM
    Thanks for reporting on the important things KKCO. Pay no attention to the violent radicals staging their overthrow of America. Just keep being useful idiots.
  • by Mike Location: GJ on Nov 22, 2011 at 08:20 AM
    The scary thing is that these people vote. YIKES
  • by Anonymous on Nov 22, 2011 at 07:54 AM
    pathetic story preying on the worst instincts out there. then again, it is kkco, never to be confused with journalism.
  • by get a life. Location: GJ on Nov 22, 2011 at 07:47 AM
    Gmartine, Have you heard of the following? lighter than air, vaporize, dissipate, ppm (parts per million, dilution, all these factors are to be considered in science. I don’t believe a few clouds created by a few jets are going to kill us. « JUNK SCIENCE » is ramp-id.
  • by Gmartine Location: Grand Junction on Nov 22, 2011 at 07:24 AM
    Wow, I had to make another post after reading the comments. Some people are saying it is just water vapor, lol. Yeah, because these jets/planes run on hydro fuel…… Then they have the nerve to attack NBC and it’s employees…
  • by Gmartine Location: GrAND Junction on Nov 22, 2011 at 07:21 AM
    The chemicals that are emitted in these contrails. Do make it down to earth. It isn’t a theory. I am suprised that a local paper actually reported it. I am not for more regulations but I believe that these chemtrails do cause harm to humans on the ground.
  • by What the ………… Location: Fruita on Nov 22, 2011 at 07:14 AM
    Another report by Matt Vanderfear, where did you get this guy? San Fransisco – U.C. Berkley? Leftist, Fear monger, Socialist Reporter. I think KKCO is taking the term « Equal Opportunity Employer » to the extreme.
  • by Follow the Drugs Location: Grand Junction on Nov 22, 2011 at 06:53 AM
    Is KKCO a drug free work place?
  • by Get Real Location: Grand Junction on Nov 22, 2011 at 06:48 AM
    Recipe for fear mongering: 1. find a story to scare the masses. 2. find a stupid paranoid conspiracy theory person to prove it. 3. find a reporter who has been implanted by the left. 4. stir until the people believe you. 5. put the story into the minds of of the masses. 6. then you get a population of half baked IDIOTS.
  • by Anonymous on Nov 22, 2011 at 06:47 AM
    this urban legend is about 12 years old, Art Bell used to talk about this, funny that 12 years later it finally makes it to GJ.
  • by Dan Location: GJT on Nov 22, 2011 at 05:29 AM
    To those who believe the contrails are chemicals, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale. Let me know how many lots you would like.
  • by Anonymous Location: Western Slope on Nov 22, 2011 at 02:31 AM
    Sorry folks it’s true! As a jet mechanic for over 12 years I can tell you con trails don’t last more than a few minutes then dissipate. What we are seeing are not con (water vapor trails) but as the author of this story states whether modification and mood modification chemical trails sprayed as the author states in a checkerboard, cross or ex patterns. You only have to look into the sky to see the difference. Follow a jet as it crosses the sky, a real con trail will dissipate behind the jet within a few minutes, chem trail will disperse slowly and spread out in width till it becomes milky. Time to wake up folks, it is true!
  • by J Location: Grand Junction on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:31 PM
    Seriously, people! Contrails… Short for Condensation trails. Go back to 6th grade science to learn what it is: The point at which water vapor cools to its liquid state. Just like the condensation that forms on your shower door. Maybe that is full of toxins too???
  • by Anonymous on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:29 PM
    this must be how the zombie apocalypse starts, mmmmm brains!
  • by Anonymous on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:20 PM
    A few years ago, everyone was saying that contrails were full of poisonous toxins to help us build up our immune systems against chemical warfare. I kind of liked that explanation better. At least it made me stronger as it killed me.
  • by Gottobekiddin Location: 81501 on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:07 PM
    The stupidest « news » report ever.
  • by Anonymous Location: spun junction on Nov 21, 2011 at 09:55 PM
    what a crock of sh#t, this news company needs to review its internal sources… you have nothing better to waste my time with? i will never watch your news broadcast ever again!
  • by BW Location: Crazytown on Nov 21, 2011 at 09:42 PM
    No doubt about it — I gotta get me another tinfoil hat.
  • by Rick Location: Grand Junction on Nov 21, 2011 at 09:40 PM
    Really? You are actually trying to pass this off as news? The downward spiral of quality from this station continues…….
  • by scorpio Location: grand junction on Nov 21, 2011 at 09:38 PM
    This is why marijuanna is illegal. Parannoia anyone?
  • by reality check on Nov 21, 2011 at 09:32 PM
    Is this what « news » is in a secondary market? No wonder we all watch the Denver channels on Dish or Direct TV.
  • by LLG Location: Montrose on Nov 21, 2011 at 09:02 PM
    This is not worthy of a professional news team. Conspiracy theorists need help not a soap box. I expected better out of you guys.
  • by Ben Location: GJ on Nov 21, 2011 at 08:58 PM
    This isn’t relevent news.
  • by andy Location: GJ on Nov 21, 2011 at 08:25 PM

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